Power Pole Meter & Box Install - Arched Cabin Build #121 (2023)


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Yay, our septic's done, we are making brackets to hang our meter box.

Damn I'm.

Sure my curve allowance is excessive well since these are going to be all symmetrical and junk, where do you see curve allowance on here? The kerf (I've been saying it wrong).

Allowance is just how wide the blade is.

Okay, because you add a little bit because you'll lose some of the blade.

It just becomes chips there's our center.

These will go there.

So just weld them there.

Yep, okay.

My goal is to get good enough at welding that mike lets me scrub in when it's time to do the beams.

I better hurry because that's coming up soon.

This is the meter box.

Uh, where are the other holes? Uh, uh, oh, yeah, they're under things.

You know, I thought of that circuit breaker installation it's, probably way different from any other circuit breaker.

Doesn't even tell you how to jam the wire into the screw, oh, [, __, ], we're hopeless.

So this is the automatic center punch.

I had a better one.

This one hits a little light, but crackheads needed my better one more than I did.

So here we are take that knockouts.

I think I'd probably just hang the brackets just get it.

All screwed down stuff it up on the pole.


And yesterday we made the golden brackets.

Oh, your face is up there zooming on the pp region, ready for my close-up, oh [.

__ ].

There are knockouts down there.

What do you know, *long, Napolean, Dynamite, sigh*, the golden bracket.

People are gonna get soooooo sick of me.

All this haze that you're seeing is smoke from wildfires in utah and colorado.

I saw photos on instagram yesterday, people with ash that had rained down on their cars and we're starting to get a little bit of that.

Here today is labor day as you can see, our Aspens are changing winter is coming.

They want their markings visible, probably, yeah, it's, almost like I measured that [ __ ].

Mike made my anxious, little heart, happy and strapped that ladder to the pole.

Thank you.

You okay? OW.

Yeah, I didn't have a hold of it at all when it dropped.

So my stupidity, and that put an end to our day, mike did not have a hold of the ladder.

And it smacked him it's the day after labor day, my dogs are going crazy, we're on walkies say, hi girls, say, hi, poopy, they're so excited, Much, borking, happening., All.

The borks! So, many borks!.

The snow is gone.

So it's time to work on our power again, mike bought this chop saw.

This thing is freaking amazing.

This is the weather head Smeared, some gunk on it's, excessive and probably needless man.

What is that like a thousand threads per quarter inch and that's? What connects it to the top of the meter box correct?? If you are doing your own power pole, I'm going to tell you a couple of things that we've learned from doing ours.

And that is the power company that you're working with.

They are going to have their own specific set of guidelines and we're trying to follow their guidelines.

But their guidelines have been a little skewed because on the drawing, it does say some information and the information that they've told us has been different.

So I called and verified, and she said, the only thing that we have to worry about is that the weatherhead is 12 inches from the top of the pole, correct? And then the meter box itself is no more than five feet to the center of where the meter will be I'm gonna focus on that.

And if they ding us on it, I will refer back to that phone call.

And then we will set them on fire.

No, then we will just have a conversation and adjust.

I left this real time.

So you can see just how amazing this chop saw is, it was expensive, but we're gonna cut enough metal that it was kind of worth it it's, not even hot, very little, really nothing to clean up.

I might drag a screwdriver around the inside of it.

So what are the three strands for two hots in a neutral? All right? So two legs of 110 these are hot and hot.

And this is the neutral because it's got the stripe.

Yep, okay.

And these are 110 110, yeah.

And that makes 220 service.

Goodness man that pipe wrench is kind of the [ __ ] for this.

Yeah, pro tip!.

Minimum is 30.

Oh, yeah, we have more than 30 for sure now I have to consider where the offset is and...

I don't know if it matters a whole lot, I guess we'll stuff it up as close to the pole as possible.

Then this is closer to the back than this is but it's centered this way by putting this to the back of the meter box right up close to the pole.

Whereas if it were the other way, it'd be far away from the pole, there would be damn near a finger width of gap there.


I understand yep, that's, all that is., MikeGyver, Ladies and Gentlemen.

Good place for it.


Did you really just do that? Probably yeah, that's everything's.

Fine, oh anywho.


I figure it should be weather.

Tight-Ish wonder if I put some junk on these, hmm, yeah, something like that.

I guess that's its happy place.

Yeah, something like that tape was largely an effort and futility, but that's how we roll mike had an idea.

He's gonna go get an eye bolt and some rope and we're gonna hoist it up if you're enjoying our videos, give us a thumbs up and don't, forget to hit subscribe exactly not high enough.

Oh no.

Oh just exactly long enough to do the job.

Yeah, nice work.

Guys, it's, nice to have zero wiggle room when you're up a floppy pole.

Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, not too.


Finally, yay, bloody hell.

That's, probably, uh, yeah, about there ooh, I'm gonna leave that as a handle that will maybe make this stripping bullsh- here.

It would figure that in a video about power.

I kill two batteries, we'll have to come back and do torque spec.

And we have to do the brackets.

Mike is installing a gfi outlet in a weatherproof box.

So that we can have power down there as soon as possible.

Well, it's sub optimal door, you're gonna [ __ ] teeth.

All right enough of this horse [, __, ], Well, I can at least put the red wire where it should be a white wire get that out of the way, hey, man, we're having fun right? Oh, geez.

I forgot to bring the instructions for breaker installation, see.

So I need the instructions follow us on youtube.

Yeah, I'll get right on that.

So I can stay abreast of the latest developments in outlet.


Black is hot green is ground.


And the red should be white I'll label it, or if I have some 10 gauge laying around I'll, replace it.

And the red is neutral, yes, it's.

Not as super complicated as many would have you believe? Well anyway, here's our grounding bus.

You want to be good and snug.

You don't want arcing happening inside your stuff.

Do you leave yourself a little bit of wiggle room in case you want to like snip off that little bit and strip a little more off? Yeah, this is all that's in it.


So you can leave a little bit extra jam it in there, it's, no, big deal.

If you were gonna run another device like at the bottom of the box, you're gonna have wires come out there.

You can attach them to these okay and that'll feed other stuff.

Oh, [, __ ] that has to be bonded it's.

A metal box.

What does that mean? I've heard that phrase before normally it would be a bare wire.

But today it's going to be a green insulated wire pretty much.

You have to put a jumper from the ground wire that's under this terminal to the box that way if something bad happens, something, you know wire stuck out here and touched the box or something it could energize that box.

So by bonding that to the ground, if that were to happen, it would have a path, and it would probably kick out the ground fault on this.

But yeah, that way if that happens, you don't get lit up by the damn box.

Okay, I'm.

Just not sure I entirely understand.

Does it just go into the ground wire is that what the wire is for? Yeah, okay.


Then the ground becomes the circuit path.

Okay, that's.


The component I was missing out in there-ish.

This is why we're called the lazy a-hole ranch, *much, chuckling* load terminals under this label are for feeding additional receptacles.

Meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, k.

So in a nutshell, the long one's, hot, nope, the short one's hot that one's neutral and that one's ground and usually it's kind of color coded.

The silver will be the neutral, the brass or gold or whatever will be the hot (green is ground).

It probably tells you, yeah, hot wire white wire.


So small is hot.

I've had it backwards.

The whole time small is hot.

Small is hot.

Small is hot.

Oh, so they have a gauge on there, telling you how long to strip your wires for yeah, most of them do now they're nice like that that's really neat.


We have a little breaker installed.

I am Xenophobe.



Lolz is this a ground rod in my hand or am I happy to see ya? I think if we poke it in right there, we can get away with it.

Oh, yeah, that won't be anything.


How deep did they bore? Ah, to there while mike's hammering away I just want to thank you guys for watching they'll, probably want that stapled off.

You just have to make the red wire white get a staple for this guy.

And then I'll call the inspection in.

This portion is done.

We can check it off the list.

You did say that you still had to order the electric wire, correct.

And you wanted to put that in the conduit first it's easier.

So let's do that trench later because we don't need power down there until we're almost so we're starting to work on the inside let's, do the water trench next and let's take care of that.

Okay, so I guess let's.

Not worry about propane or the rest of the electrical right now and let's just focus on water, and that that's.

The only other thing we have to do before we start with the beams and stuff right? Yeah, I believe so let's just do that as much as I like to get all the trenches dug and all the conduit buried.

If it doesn't really make sense to do it.

Now, then why do it now? Oh, and we have to do the torque specs on that after it gets inspected.

We call the power company and then they'll come out and hook it up.

We are this close to having power, which will that'll help because we've been using a generator.

So I found the white electrical tape.

We needed I'm going to put it on the wire now.

So you have to rivet it to the front cool, MikeGyver, ladies and gentlemen, the man the myth.

The legend MikeGyver likes his rtv, the sides of this box are somewhat less than weatherproof.

But do you find this video very riveting, ladies and gentlemen, leave a comment below so brass tag check, yay, getting there! now get out there and do the thing I know you can.

Thanks guys.


What size wire do I need to run from meter to house? ›

you will need to use #4/0 Aluminum, Aluminum Clad Wire, or #2/0 Copper. These are the safest wire sizes because they will allow you to use the full amperage of your electrical service without too high of a voltage drop.

What gauge wire do I need for a pole to my house? ›

Personally, I would, if building a new home, put in all the electrical outlets with 12 gauge wire, 20 amp breakers, and 20 amp outlets.

What wire do I need from meter to breaker box? ›

SE-U is most commonly used for service entrance applications, to connect the meter socket to the main breaker panel.

How high off the ground should a meter base be? ›

Electric meters

The National Electric Safety Code requires an unobstructed working space that extends from the floor or ground to a minimum height of 6 feet, 6 inches. For electrical equipment mounted higher than 6 feet, 6 inches, this space shall extend to the top of the equipment.

How far can you run 12 to electrical wire? ›

For 240-volt circuits:
14 AWG100 feet
12 AWG120 feet
10 AWG128 feet
8 AWG152 feet
6 AWG188 feet
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What size wire do I need for a 200 amp service 200 feet away? ›

When installing a 200 Amp service, you will need at least 3/0 AWG copper wire or 4/0 AWG aluminum or aluminum copper-clad wire.

Do I need 12 or 14 gauge wire? ›

14-gauge is used for lamps, light fixtures, and lighting circuits with 15 amps. 16-gauge is best for extension cords supporting 13 amps. 12-gauge is ideal for use in the bathroom, kitchen, outdoor receptacles, and 120-volt AC's supporting 20 amps.

What is 12 2 wire used for? ›

Applications: Non-metallic sheathed NM-B cable is used in normally dry installations in residential wiring, as branch circuits for outlets, lighting and other residential loads.

What size wire for 50 amps at 100 feet? ›

What size wire do I need for a 50 amp service 100 feet? If you run 50 amps to a sub-panel 100 feet away, the appropriate wire size is 4 AWG copper. You should also ensure that the 50 amp breaker in your main panel can handle the current load.

What size wire do I need for a 100 amp meter box? ›

Typical sizes of wires for 100 Amp Service are 4 AWG or 2 AWG for copper wiring and 2 AWG, 1 AWG, or 1/0 AWG for aluminum or copper-clad wiring. These sizes are also used for direct burial.

Does wire from meter to panel need to be in conduit? ›

Wiring: Wiring from service wires to the meter must be in conduit and the conduit from the service wires to the meter must be exposed.

How many wires go from meter to panel? ›

Most often, the ground wire is not connected in the meter base but in the main service breaker panel. The process by which an electrician or utility technician connects an electric meter involves making a total of seven simple wire connections: three line connections, three load connections, and a grounding connection.

What is the NEC code for meter height? ›

The meter enclosure shall be mounted with a maximum height of five feet six inches (5' 6”) to the top of the meter enclosure, and a minimum of thirty inches (30”) to the bottom of the meter enclosure.

How tall should a meter pole be? ›

7. Meter base must be mounted 6 feet above ground level. 8. Ground rod must be copper or galvanized coated, at least 8 feet in length and connected with an approved clamp to a minimum of #6 bare copper ground wire.

How far off the ground should power lines be? ›

Power Lines Over Streets and Roadways With Commercial Traffic. For any driveways, alleys, roads, or streets likely to carry vehicles more than 8 feet in height, the guideline is for all power lines to be at least 15.5 feet above the ground measured at their lowest point.

What is the maximum amps for 12 AWG wire? ›

Specifically to your question, a 12 AWG copper conductor is specified as having a maximum current of 25A, based on the copper 75 degC column of Table 310.15(B)(16) - NEC2014.

How many outlets can be on a 20 amp circuit with 12 gauge wire? ›

Although the National Electric Code (NEC) does not directly rule on limiting the outlets on your circuit, it is critical to understand its power draw limitations. In general, a 20A circuit should have no more than 10 outlets.

Can you run 30 amps on 12 gauge wire? ›

A 12-gauge wire is not suitable for 30 amps. Here's a table of wire gauges and their corresponding ampacity ratings according to the NEC. So, for a 30 amps circuit, 10 gauge is appropriate. If we use an inappropriate wire gauge, the voltage drop across the wire can cause potential hazards.

How many amps can you run on a 200 amp service? ›

The demand on a 200 amp panel should not exceed 160 amps. In wattage, this equals 32,000 watts, so this is where you should cap the total load of your electrical circuits. And if you use more, then even a 200 amp panel may need to be upgraded.

What ground rod is required for 200 amp service? ›

Grounding Wire

Ground wires for residences typically are made of copper and are #6 (6 AWG) or larger. For 200 Amp services, a #4 grounding electrode conductor (ground wire) is required.

How many breakers do I need for a 200 amp service? ›

Most 200 AMP main electrical panels can have 40 circuit breakers. So, if you're exceeding the circuit limit of the existing panel, then we would add an additional panel downstream or secondary panel, and give you additional space to run more items.

Can I put outlets and lights on the same circuit? ›

You can combine electrical receptacles and overhead lights on one circuit due to the fact that lights generally draw significantly less power than large appliances. This will allow you to distribute the power consumption throughout the breakers in your panel effectively.

Can you use 12 2 wire on a 15 amp breaker? ›

2 Answers. It is perfect to use 12/2(or larger) on a 15 amp circuit. The code only states the minimum size gauge to use on a circuit. 14 gauge is the minimum on 15 amps.

How many amps can a 12 2 wire handle? ›

You can use a 20 amp circuit breaker with 12/2 Romex as 12/2 wire is rated for 20 amps.

What is 12 1 wire used for? ›

Used in raceways (except cable troughs and ventilated flexible cableways), ceiling fixtures, dry or wet locations and open wiring exposed to weather.

Can 12 2 wire run underground? ›

UF-B is rated at 600 volts. Although it is rated at a conductor temperature of 90ºC dry / wet, its ampacity is limited to 60ºC according to the NEC 2008 AND NEC 2011. UF-B may be directly buried or installed where exposed to sunlight.

What wire size do I need to go 100 feet for a 60 amp service to a workshop? ›

The optimal wire sizes for a 60 Amp circuit breaker are 4 AWG copper or 3 AWG aluminum. The ampacity of the 4 AWG copper wire is 85 amps at 75°C.

How far can you run 12 gauge wire on a 15 amp circuit? ›

More affordable 14- or 12-gauge wire would suffice for all circuits up to 100 in length (one-way) and 10-gauge would only be needed to minimize voltage on quite a long circuit - 200 feet one way, if at 15 amps of current, to stay within a 5% voltage drop.

What wire is required for 50 amps? ›

50 AMP Wire Size

For a maximum of 50 amps, you'll need a wire gauge of 6. Fifty amp breakers are most often used to power many different appliances. However, a kitchen oven can alone require 50 amps.

How many amps can you put in a 100 amp box? ›

Irrespective of the number of circuits, make sure that your 100 Amp service and the 100 Amp Panel don't exceed more than 80% of its capacity. This means, all the individual circuits and respective circuit breakers together should consume up to 80 Amps (ideally) in a 100 Amp Service with a 100 Amp Circuit Breaker Panel.

What size wire do I need for a ground meter box? ›

The most recommended type and size of wire is #4 size AWG copper wire, which is based on the current and voltage ratings of the meter and breaker.

What size wire for 100 amp service 100 feet away? ›

If you check the wire size chart (you have the link in the introduction), the #0 AWG wire (also known as 1/0 AWG wire) has 150 ampacity. That means that #0 AWG wire is the perfect size wire for 100 amp service 100 feet away.

Does a meter box need to be grounded? ›

Meter bases shall be grounded with a #4 or larger solid copper conductor, connected with a ground rod clamp to a 1/2" or larger diameter approved ground rod driven eight feet into the earth. The top of the ground rod must not extend above the earth and shall not be cut off.

How far off does the conduit have to be from the power pole? ›


Conduit to end 3-4 ft away from pole, padmount transformer or pedestal. Gray PVC Schedule 40 or Schedule 80 UL listed conduit. Diameter specified by consumers energy route must be reviewed and approved by Consumers Energy. All joints MUST be coupled and glued.

Does electrical wire need to be buried in conduit? ›

In most cases, you'll probably use conduit (a hollow tube through which you run individual wires). However, if you only need a power supply (without wires to control lights from inside the house,) you can use a direct burial cable, placed in the soil without conduit.

Do you need a disconnect from between the meter and the panel? ›

For an installation where the service conductors leave the meter, penetrate the home, and go directly into the electrical panel, an exterior emergency disconnect would now be required to be installed for the home.

How far can a breaker box be from the meter? ›

Most areas have a limit of 5-6 feet into the structure to the main panel/disconnect.

Does the ground rod go in meter or panel? ›

A ground rod is usually located very close to your main electrical service panel and is often made of copper or copper coated steel. They're approximately one-half-inch in diameter and 8 to 10 feet in length. It must be electrically tied to your main service panel to provide an approved ground connection.

Can electricians fit meters? ›

The short answer is no, as it's illegal to install a meter unless you're a registered and qualified technician. Simply get in touch with GEC and we can arrange the whole process for you.

What is the maximum height of a breaker disconnect handle or meter? ›

NEC states that circuit breakers shall be installed so that the center of the grip of the operating handle of the circuit breaker, when in its highest position, will not be more than 6 ft. 7 in.

How tall is the power pole for your house? ›

Typical utility poles measure 30 to 60 feet for poles in residential neighborhoods, and from 60 feet to over 120 feet along major highways.

What is the specs for a meter pole? ›


What height should a electric meter box be? ›

Electric meters

The National Electric Safety Code requires an unobstructed working space that extends from the floor or ground to a minimum height of 6 feet, 6 inches. For electrical equipment mounted higher than 6 feet, 6 inches, this space shall extend to the top of the equipment.

What ground wire is needed for a 200 amp service? ›

For 200 Amp services, a #4 grounding electrode conductor (ground wire) is required.

Should home wiring be 12 or 14 gauge? ›

Choosing Electrical Wire Size

14-gauge are usedfor light fixtures, lamps, lighting circuits with 15 amps. 12-gauge are used in kitchen, bathroom, outdoor receptacles, and 120-volt air conditioners supporting 20 amps.

What size wire do I need to run 100 amps 200 feet? ›

Determining the right size of electrical wiring is a common issue among many individuals. But for a 100 amp sub panel, your best bet is a 1-gauge wire if it's 200 feet away.

What wire size do I need for a 400 amp service? ›

Size of the cables to use for a 400 Amp Meter Base

A 400 Amp service panel and 400 Amp meter base require a 750 kmil (750 MCM) 0r 1000 kcmil (1000 MCM) aluminum wire at 194°F or only 1000 kcmil (1000 MCM) at 167 °F. For copper wire, you will need 600 kcmil (600 MCM) copper wire for both 167 °F and 194°F.

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